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Specific Targets :: RE: Another Rational Approach to the 'Vryal' Enquiry

Don Croft — Thu, 08 May 2008 15:48:13 GMT

Author: Don Croft
Subject: Re: Another Rational Approach to the 'Vryal' Enquiry
Posted: Thu 08 May, 2008 10:48 (GMT -5)

In the year before he died, Norman Mailer published his last book, which was a biography of Hitler that apparently includes some occult background material. Carol and I intend to read this one as soon as possible.

Don

Specific Targets :: Another Rational Approach to the 'Vryal' Enquiry

Don Croft — Thu, 08 May 2008 15:45:23 GMT

Author: Don Croft
Subject: Another Rational Approach to the 'Vryal' Enquiry
Posted: Thu 08 May, 2008 10:45 (GMT -5)

Dear Don,

Since my comments and data on the SS, I went back copied all the EW forum posts on "VRIL/VYRAL"into one file document and read it all through.

I have a unusually strong 'nagging" thought ("a physic bridge" at work here ???). You know how damn 'logical" I am through my profession and training and life experiences, so to get stuck on this subject means I had to look into it.

A few points after an all-nighter (really I could not sleep)...

1. The name of Vyral/Vril simply doesn't sound right to me (you know I speak 8 languages), I have to say that my strong feeling guides me that one has to "think" like these creatures and how they speak (telepathic or otherwise)... going back in NORDIC languages and the way they are structured is my "best guess" of the way to pronounce this, and this may help us home in on the specific targeting. The name "Vril-Ya" is proposed by the writer of the 1870's book (Sir Edward) [Bulwer-Lytton, scion of Rosicrucians ~D], and claiming that these race are decsendents of Atlantis. I think that too is a variation (or disinformation)

What I have come to at this point in time, is that the name has a high probability of sounding like what the physic team consensus came to, but is not accurate, as it is influenced by the Latin-based language structure, and this is NOT where it came from. Its like the pronunciation of the hieroglyphics, there are several sounds to an "obvious" one..... I will speak to some language experts in the Scandinavian/Nordic field and see what they come up with, then the physics can look into this again - and this may be a breakthrough of sorts.

2. LINKS: These are interesting, if you have not seen them before, or if "new" data is buried within ...

http://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/vril/index.htm

"Vril, The Power of the Coming Race" by Sir Edward Bulwer-Lytton. (all chapters can be downloaded and the book saved)

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Vril_Society.htm

http://www.crystalinks.com/hitleroccult.html

or

http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/them...erhistory.shtml

The Unkown Hitler

http://hiddenmysteries.com/xcart/product.php?productid=18270

The Cosmic Serpent

DNA & the Origins of Knowledge

by Jeremy Narby

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Don, here---I really appreciate it when someone provides a studied opinion on what we're doing. Consultation is a powerful instrument, after all, and 'the spark of truth is often produced by the clash of differing opinions.'

The Vryal enquiry was initiated after the psychics repeatedly saw these old-young Nordic characters involved in the upper-dungheap machinations of the world odor. Others have supplied good corroborative evidence over the years, too. The fact that Hitler adored Bulwer-Lytton is probably another confirmation that we're on the right track, since Hitler's regime probably most closely resembled what the world odor wanted to establish, globally, and is still trying to set up in America. We're all still armed and potentilally dangerous (at least to these terrorists ), so of course they'll fail but it's a good idea to be informed of their intentions, infrastructure (vulnerable to orgonite ), ideology (Theosophy-based in this case, for popular consumption) and hierarchies so that we'll know exactly what to discard in coming days.

Karl Welz teaches the ancient runic divination system that the Vryal apparently use, in case you're interested. It's got some symbols that are not available, elsewhere. Most of the occult literature that's publicly available has missing essential parts, of course. We generally prefer to get our personally-applied

intel directly from The Operators via hunches and some self-disciplined study (like the above) but it's also prudent to look, in a detached way, at whatever went before.

Sure, the psychics struggle with pronunciation and spelling and they feel it's important to be accurate but when they started listening to the Vryal human-sacrifice rituals the formal language sounded more like Russian to them than modern German. The above suggestions will be helpful, I think.

Thanks for all this help!

~Don

Vendors Forums :: Grand Opening Of New Orgonise Africa Website

Egoli.buster — Thu, 08 May 2008 15:28:40 GMT

Author: Egoli.buster
Subject: Grand Opening Of New Orgonise Africa Website
Posted: Thu 08 May, 2008 10:28 (GMT -5)

See www.orgoniseafrica.com and www.orgoniseafrica.com/shop

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Guys,

it has taken a while. The most cumbersome was implementing the new shop.

But now we go 100% live!

Some of you may have looked at the Info pages before, because they've been up for a while now including the blog.

But now it's all integrated with the new shop and that shop looks cute, I think.

And that's why we start it with a

GRAND OPENING

to which you are most heartily invited!

As a welcome greeting, I'm handing out free money for all who come, namely in the form of a Gift Voucher of 200 Rand, that's about 26.50 US Dollar or 17.10 Euro.

Generally we have calculated our prices in South African Rand now, which is the currency in which we incur our cost as well, so that makes more sense.

The new shop can show the prices in all major currencies however. The default in the English version is US Dollar.

The exchange rates get updated every day, so don't be surprised when the prices are changeing every day in every currency except South African Rand.

Generally we have LOWERED ALL PRICES BY APPROXIMATELY 15%!

Wow!

How was this possible?

When we calculated the Euro prices on the old website, you got about 8 Rand for a Euro, now it went over 12 Rand per Euro temporarily and is presently near 11.50. That was a Windfall for us, because we suddenly got a lot more Rands for our products. Of course Raw materials have also gone up quite a bit, like resin which is influenced by the oil price and copper that has more than doubled over the last 2 years.

So we have settled for re-converting the Euro into Rand 10 Rand per Euro, which is like an immedate 15% Discount at current rates for all foreign customers.

We can live with these prices and it makes shopping at Orgonise Africa so much more attractive. The trend is however showing signs of reversing and the Rand may become more expensive again, so the present discount may well be shortlived.

Enough of that! Fact is that the produsts are suddenly all 15% cheaper and there is a freebie to be had!

Also we wish to introduce our new

ORGONE DODECAHEDRON

at the Opening Gala

and we have slapped an introductory special on it with 30% off the price until 17 May.

and that's how it looks like

Further Improvements:

1. Firstly the shop is totally bilingual. English and German including all elements of customer instructions.

2. At any point in time while you're dreamily pushing your shopping cart through the virtual isles of my shop, can you call for a shipping estimate for whatever is in your cart. Not only is this convenient for you, but imagine how many less emails like "How much is it gonna cost me to ship a CB and 200 TBs to Milwaukee, USA?" I will get in the future.

3. The new Affiliate program is a HIT. If you have a website and like what we do, become an Affiliate and start eaning 10 percent for every customer that you sent us. The tracking software is quite elaborate and you can log intio your afiliate account at any time and check what's due to you.

Payouts can be in PayPal or for larger amonts also per bank transfer. More and more webmasters are augmenting their incomes with such affiliate links and the better if these links lead to sympathetic websites that you don't have to be ashamed of.

4. We find it looks really cool too! The layout is much clearer and crisper and the flow is also smoother. Maybe there are still a few hidden knks here and there. Pleas let us know when you discover such glitches that may have eluded our scrutiny.

And now come in, I'm looking forward to your visit

Yours

Georg Ritschl

on www.orgoniseafrica.de and the shop is directly under www.orgoniseafrica.com/shop
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Doing it all over Africa and sending it out to the world

www.orgoniseafrica.com

Specific Targets :: RE: First Aerially Gifted Mt. Top Death Ray Array ;-)

Don Croft — Thu, 08 May 2008 14:56:40 GMT

Author: Don Croft
Subject: Re: First Aerially Gifted Mt. Top Death Ray Array ;-)
Posted: Thu 08 May, 2008 09:56 (GMT -5)

Thx Dean--I could have some fun mystifying the kimchee mfg process, I suppose

Planning to gift the really, really nasty deathray array on Mt Spokane today. I like to telegraph my punches, much to the occasional chagrin of some people who are close to me.

Mt Spokane is a very wide mountain and Carol grew up on its slopes. There's a big ski lodge near the top but the felonious feds shut it down right after they blew up the World Trade Center. A year later I tried to get to that array to disable it but the access road was gated and 'observed' so I had to content myself with stringing orgonite all the way down--ten miles--from the gate and I wasn't able to get around to the other side.

CIA guys literally boxed me in when I parked the Zapporium in a grocery store store parking lot, a few minutes later, and one of them--obviously a nerdy engineer--wheedled me to open up the back of the Zapporium so he could look inside, which I was happy to do just to frustrate them. Of course there was nothing in there but living facilities (it was my home-built camper on the back of an old ford pickup that Carol and I had lived, worked and travelled in for a year). The atmosphere over the mountain had improved so quickly and dramatically that these CIA skunks apparently assumed I had some anti-HAARP weaponry in there and right after the guy walked away, disappointed, the three CIA vehicles that boxed me in suddenly left. The others, except for the boss guy, never got out of their cars but they had that skunkish, slightly menacing CIA look and dark glasses. The NSA guys who later accosted me in Maryland were a lot more aggressive--real Men in Black: morticians with attitude, lousy tailors and pistol bulges at the ankles.

That was a fun day but I always intended to get back there to finish up. A couple of years later, perhaps due to public irritation, they opened up the popular lodge and access road, again, and they had also increased the number of death towers. It looks like a bad haircut, up there--sort of like the ridge top above the HOLLYWOOD sign in LA does. Have you noticed how hard it is for cinematographers to avoid showing those death towers, lately?

I was going to go there, yesterday but it was overcast all day, perhaps partly due to my success on Hoodoo Mountain the day before . Today, it's clear and windy but not too windy to fly. Kind of cold, though. My new helmet is on the way and I have a video cam to attach to it. I think I can get something on YouTube, pretty soon if the hackers can't prevent it.

Remember DK in Nevada? I told him about the 'hovering airplane' over me while I was taking off, a couple of weeks ago, and here's what he replied:

Aha! I have seen that too. My friends and I would see balls of light transform into lear jet type planes but have a propeller sound! Oops...somebody got the hologram wrong! Haha!

Well, I'm glad you're OK. Be careful. Tribal elections are coming up around here so I've been giving out gifts of TBs and also placing them around the Tribal bldgs. Every little bit helps...

--DK

It seems to me that draconian arrogance can account for adding prop sounds to a jet disguise. Carol and I once watched a Cessna stop about five hundred feet over us and hover. We looked up becuase the motor sound was stopping and the plane then sort of glided to a stop. After a moment, we heard a motor start up and the plane began slowly moving, again.

I wish I could do that! Keep your eyes open and look up a lot, okay? These experiences are kind of empowering because they break down the What To Think Network's stranglehold, also erode materialistic academic programming..

~Don

Research and Development :: Square Metal Pipes for Cloudbusters?

Don Croft — Thu, 08 May 2008 14:35:42 GMT

Author: Don Croft
Subject: Square Metal Pipes for Cloudbusters?
Posted: Thu 08 May, 2008 09:35 (GMT -5)

Brad in Canada--you sent me an email asking about square pipes and my response was instantly rejected by Hotmail (NSA) Hackers, so I hope you're reading this:

If you make a cloudbuster with square pipes, please let me know and I'll ask the psychics to look at it remotely. I don't have a clue whether this works as well or better than round ones.

I don't think it matters, much, what type of metal is used, though. I've seen good results with aluminum pipes, for instance, and apparently Dr Reich favored steel, perhaps because that's what was easily available at the time.

Thanks,

Don

Orgone Experiences :: From an Observant Gifter in Sweden

Don Croft — Thu, 08 May 2008 14:27:08 GMT

Author: Don Croft
Subject: From an Observant Gifter in Sweden
Posted: Thu 08 May, 2008 09:27 (GMT -5)

Hi Don!

My name is Peter and i live in Stockholm Sweden

Bought the zapper and it works great. I was in good health before using it so I haven�t got any dramatic improvements to report.

Tell Carol that i love the Harmonic Protector. I only take it off in the shower:-)

Discovered orgonite a while ago - better late than never - and have done some gifting in Stockholm. It�s really wonderful the way it works. I met one of my surly neighbours a while ago - and she smiled!

Gifted the outside of an old cancerhospital last week that had a really really bad energy - two TB:s and fifteen minutes later the atmosphere was totally transformed - magic.

I haven�t posted on any of the orgoneboards and I�d like to keep it that way at least for now.

The following article is from todays Expressen- which is one of the big evening papers here in Sweden. It seem like the NWO is alive here as well.

I could not believe my eyes so I had to translate it so you guys can read it too. Was unsure how to translate some of the phrases but I think it�s pretty readable. Feel free to post it on the site if you want.

In the online edition they had this poll where they wanted the readers opinion about World Government and 70 percent was against.

We�re not as brainwashed here as i thought. Good news.....

Hope you and Carol are safe and protected.

All the best Peter

Article:

More supranationalism can save us

Europe Day is celebrated this week. But why limit oneself to Europe and EU when so many of our serious problems are global? It doesn�t matter how much the Prime Minister and the Environment Minister preaches to the rest of the world as long as a global platform for democracy is missing.

These are the words of Torbj�rn T�nnsj� who would like to see a United Nations parlamentary assembly as the first step towards "global democracy".

He writes today; Fear of a superstate cannot be allowed to hinder a global platform.

The environmental threats against humanity becomes more and more obvious. Global warming awaits, unless the nations of the world heads toward a radically new direction. Still our political leaders fail to find a reasonable solution.

These failures doesn�t depend on either stupidity or on malevolence. They depend on a system error. They depend on the political leaders of the world and their lack of mandate to deal with issues like this.

And then it doesn�t matter how much Prime Minister Reinfeldt and Environment Minister Anders Carlgren preaches to the the rest of the world.

The problem is global but our governments and primeministers are elected to solve domestic problems. They are commissioned by the voters to represent their own country in the best way possible. And each nation are interested in doing as little as possible about the environmental problems themselves, while other nations do as much as possible. When everybody thinks that way it�s no wonder that the attempts to find sustainable and viable solutions fail. It�s essentially what one can expect.

Is there a way to solve pressing problems of a global nature? Yes, but they must be handled on a global level. In my book, "Global Democracy. The Case for a World Government", I�m arguing for global democracy. It is a controversial thought. Still it seems to be shared by a growing number of social thinkers worldwide, as well as powerful movements. The Catholic Church for example is in favor of it.

It would however be unwise to stall the solutions to the environmental problems we are now facing until a world government is installed. Something must be done immediately.

Here is a simple suggestion for the swedish government:

Start an initiative in the UN General Assembly, for the arrangement of a temporary conference with parlamentarians from all over the world. Such a conference can be summoned immediately and it would constitute the beginning of an exciting political experiment

Each nation may send three parliamentarians to the temporarily summoned assembly. Two elected by the majority of each parlament, one elected by the opposition.

The mandate to the assembly is to have a global outlook on the climate issue. The assembly should view themselves as a temporary worldparliament. It�s important to talk it over and arrive at a proposition for a solution of such nature that nobody reasonably, on sensible grounds can make any objections.

Is it reasonable that the political will is going to exist in all nations?

Will USA stay outside? It is hard to believe. The rethoric of USA has been to criticize UN for being undemocratic. The current initiative would mean the start of a democratization of the UN. It shouldn�t be difficult to generate opinion in USA in favor of US participation. A new (US) government would have a unique opportunity to improve the USA:s international reputation through participation.

What stand will a nation like China take then? Can they elect any representatives from the opposition at all? It will be exciting to see - and an eternal shame for China if they fail. But what if representatives from China and other non democracies gets elected anyway, but in reality represents their governments and completely lacks the ability to view the issues at hand from an impartial and global perspective?

That would be sad, but no hindrance to the proposition. Who knows what would happen to the delegates from nondemocratic nations, when forced to participate in open discussions, on equal terms with other parliamentarians, with the intention to find the best solution to the problems from a global viewpoint. Perhaps it would at least among these delegates generate a hunger for more democracy in their own countries

If a proposition like this one would turn out happily there would probably be many who would like to expand it further. Among these is the author of this article. I have like many intellectuals and parlamentarians worldwide signed an appeal for the installment of a permanent parlamentarian assembly within the United Nations. More about this appeal, initiated by the former General Secretary of UN , Boutros Boutros-Ghali, can be found at www.unpacampaign.org .

In times of globalisation the need for common decisions increase - on an international level

Europe Day is celebrated this week in our part of the world. But why limit oneself to Europe and EU when so many of our serious problems are global? The fear of a "superstate" cannot stand in the way of a global democracy platform that can actually save us from environmental catastrophes and other disasters the world can be faced with.

Torbj�rn T�nnsj�

T�nnsj� is a professor in practical philosophy at the university of Stockholm and presents his book about global democracy at the university upcoming Thursday (8 may 2008)

Link to original article if someone is interested:

http://www.expressen.se/debatt/1.11...t-kan-radda-oss

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I was very happy to get Peter's report because we've been waiting a long time to get news about a commitment to gifting in Sweden. I should stress that it really doesn't matter how soon or late a country is represented in this unorganized movement. A case in point is Germany, where not much was done for the first couple of years but the movement witnessed explosive growth and commitment in a short time, after that, and continues to expand and consolidate, there.

By now many of us are laughing at the way 'global warming' is used as an excuse for bigger global fascism, especially since those of us who gift a lot of HAARP facilities hae witnessed the end of artificial droughts and overal milder climate in every sort of region

Apparently, we've been so effective with our orgonite-tossing that corporate academia, through the What To Think Network, is doing an about-face and saying that the problem is 'global cooling,' instead. Oops . This waffling is apparently even challenging the incredulous, Rothschild-funded environmentalists who sincerely believe that we need more and more corporate fascism in order to enforce their marijuana-inspired vision of a 'better world.' They also believe that only religious fundamentalists are schizoid--go figure.

I like this definition of 'fanatic,' which applies to these folks: One who, having lost sight of his goal, redoubles his efforts to reach it.

~Don

Research and Development :: Cheap Fuel from Bacteria on Biomass

Don Croft — Thu, 08 May 2008 14:13:02 GMT

Author: Don Croft
Subject: Cheap Fuel from Bacteria on Biomass
Posted: Thu 08 May, 2008 09:13 (GMT -5)

Thanks, Liz, for sending this. ~Don

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Researcher: Discovery could end energy crisis

Tifton (GA) Gazette ^ | 3/15/2008 | Jana Cone

Posted on 3/20/2008 3:35:26 AM by Neville72

A Tifton agricultural researcher says he has found the solution to the world’s energy crisis through genetic modification and cloning of bacterial organisms that can convert bio-mass into hydrocarbons on a grand scale. The local researcher believes his groundbreaking discovery could result in the production of 500 to 1,000 barrels of hydrocarbon fuel per day from the initial production facility. The hydrocarbon fuel — commonly known as oil or fossil fuel when drilled — will require no modification to automobiles, oil pipelines or refineries as they exist today and could forever end the United States’ dependence on foreign oil, he said.

J.C. Bell, who brought the world powdered peanut butter, has spent the last four years, identifying the bacteria that produces hydrocarbon and then finding a way to genetically alter it so that it could produce hydrocarbon in greater volume.

Bell cited a USDA study that projected it was possible to produce two billion tons of bio-mass that could be converted to hydrocarbon with some modification to agriculture and forestry practices.

Pamela Serino, Chief of the Department of Defense Energy Support Center at Fort Belvoir, Va., said she was very excited about Bell’s technology. “The DOD Energy Support Center is the energy purchasing arm of the defense logistics agency,” Serino said. She said she became acquainted with Bell when he met with a senator about his hydrocarbon research. “We give support to the Hill,” she said. “When he was briefing the senator, we were there to see if his technology was viable.” Serino said her job was to question the science behind the technology. “It looks good to me,” she said.

Serino said she envisions a near future where “we have multiple regional energy sources.” She said the growth in China and India makes the work in bio-energy more critical.

Now that his discoveries have been patented, his corporation formed — Bell Bio-Energy, Inc. — and his government communications established, Bell announced his discoveries to the local press on Friday morning.

“I have received a tremendous amount of support from the state and federal government,” Bell said. “I could not have gotten this far without the help of (U.S. Sen.) Saxby Chambliss, (U.S. Sen.) Johnny Isakson, (Rep.) Jim Marshall, (Rep.) Jack Kingston and Floyd Gabler, the deputy undersecretary of the USDA.” He said, “They have opened doors for me at the Department of Defense and the EPA and EPD.”

Bell said he never considered ethanol for his research. “He who burns his food goes hungry,” Bell said. “That’s an old Chinese proverb.” Instead he concentrated on bio-mass and hydrocarbons. “If it grows it’s bio-mass,” Bell said. Bio-mass is any living or recently dead biological material. Hydrocarbon is an organic compound consisting entirely of hydrogen and carbon. Decomposed organic matter provides an abundance of carbon and hydrogen and is naturally occurring in crude oil.

Sources for bio-mass to be converted to hydrocarbon fuel are the forestry industry, pulp plants, agriculture and waste derived from the construction and demolition industry.

“This is the ultimate recycling,” Bell said. “Environmentalists should rejoice. We are only using waste products.” Bell said his company would take all of the waste of the plants: The tree limbs and tree tops, husks and cob of the corn, wheat stubble and corn stover.

Bell said that with ethanol, “The United Stated would have to totally rebuild our infrastructure.” He said, “We wanted to make hydrocarbon that could immediately be pumped.”

Bell said the original idea came from observing cows expel gas. “That is natural gas,” Bell said. “Cows release methane gas.” He said the gas is created by bacteria in the cow’s rumen or stomach. “These bacterial organisms are responsible for biological conversion of bio-mass into hydrocarbons,” he said.

With his research complete, Bell is in the process of building his pilot plants and production facilities. At the pilot plants, the bio-mass will be tested to select bacterial strains, bacterial genetic modification will be tested, revision of production protocols will be established, and a determination will be made of the best method of bio-mass conversion.

“We are exploring several locations for our pilot plants and production facilities,” Bell said. “We have the opportunity to put our plants in several locations.”

He estimated the budget for the research facility to be at $60 million annually and the production facilities at $250 to $300 million a year. He anticipates being in full scale production by October 1, 2009.

“Wherever this is located, the community will reap tremendous economic benefit,” he said.

Bell cites a number of benefits of bio-mass conversion: The energy shortage issue can be effectively addressed, it is a totally renewable energy source, it calms global warming fears, utilizes industrial waste and supports the agriculture industry.

“We can reduce the waste stream by 70 percent,” he said.

For more information e-mail questions to .

To contact reporter Jana Cone, call 382-4321, ext. 208.

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1 posted on 3/20/2008 3:35:27 AM by Neville72

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Bump!

2 posted on 3/20/2008 3:45:59 AM by roaddog727 (BS does not get bridges built - the funk you see is the funk you do)

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" Dainbramage said recycling My dead body would power a aircraft carrier for 10 years"

3 posted on 3/20/2008 3:54:35 AM by DainBramage

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“Bell said the original idea came from observing cows expel gas.”

Not quite as romantic as Newton watching an apple fall. Unfortunately, I predict that this won’t be as far-reaching either. I’m sure Bell is not the only one who’s thought of modifying bacteria so that they can produce a fuel. Whether it works is the key. I’ll reserve my judgment until I see the product.

4 posted on 3/20/2008 3:55:09 AM by Brilliant

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To: Neville72

Excellent! I will keep my big bore V-8 Tundra!

5 posted on 3/20/2008 3:57:05 AM by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)

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To: Neville72

bring it on - it will be immense fun wtching those russian thugs devolve back into the third world status they deserve.

6 posted on 3/20/2008 4:01:02 AM by spanalot

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To: Neville72

Dang is Tifton great or what? First, heat resistant bentgrass greens and now this!

I hope it is true. I would love to see the Arabs cutoff at the knees.

7 posted on 3/20/2008 4:01:09 AM by doodad

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To: Brilliant; neverdem; Congressman Billybob; patton; theDentist

Then again, I’m waiting for an enviro-eco-freak to claim that “If this is released it will get out of control and consume ALL living matter in an uncontrollable exponential growth and the world will end as an oil-filled swamp ...

8 posted on 3/20/2008 4:02:36 AM by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)

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To: doodad

No doubt Exxon Mobile will be at his door step today with a buy out to bury this program

9 posted on 3/20/2008 4:03:29 AM by BubbaJunebug

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To: Neville72

I'm in.

Certainly would be nice to get oil self dependent, and out of the Mid-East Hell hole.

10 posted on 3/20/2008 4:05:50 AM by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)

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To: spanalot

Please, God, before the ME takes over the globe.

11 posted on 3/20/2008 4:09:42 AM by txflake

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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

The final product is a gas, so our vehicles would all run on a propane-like gas?

Cows also leave a certain amount of physical residue after they process their bio-mass. What happens to the residue? Is it all consumed by bacteria?

12 posted on 3/20/2008 4:15:51 AM by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)

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To: Neville72

Not this BS again. There was a thread on this topic yesterday that was joined by JC Bell (mentioned in the article). After a few technical questions Mr Bell fled the field.

13 posted on 3/20/2008 4:16:30 AM by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)

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To: Neville72

This is almost as Martians pissing gasoline. ain’t it?

14 posted on 3/20/2008 4:17:56 AM by Waco

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... can convert bio-mass into hydrocarbons on a grand scale. The local researcher believes his groundbreaking discovery could result in the production of 500 to 1,000 barrels of hydrocarbon fuel per day from the initial production facility.

If that,s real, big oil will make shure this thing will never see light of the day, you can bet your house on it.

Look at the hybrid cars scam, it takes very little to upgrade a hybrid car to a PHEV (plug in hybrid) which is basically an electric car with combustion engine back-up, yet no car manufacturer dares to produce one (you can buy a conversion kit though making your hybrid into a PHEV).

No car manufacturer dares to produce a PHEV cause they all are all in bed with oil companies.

After being patriotic (and stupid) for 30 years driving American cars I finally woke up like millions of Americans and now I am driving a Toyota.

GM, Ford and Chrysler will go bankrupt soon anyway.

15 posted on 3/20/2008 4:25:02 AM by Anticommie

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To: Neville72

Oil company sharpshooters have already been deployed.

16 posted on 3/20/2008 4:25:28 AM by PBRSTREETGANG

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To: Neville72

Seems to me that what is described here is theoretically possible. What remains to be seen of course is if this is the real thing.

As someone else pointed out, were it to be accurate, the enviro-tards will most surely attempt to derail it.

17 posted on 3/20/2008 4:28:16 AM by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)

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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Don’t be so sure. If this produces oil, it will have to be produced, refined and distributed to the existing gas stations. This will fall to the existing refineries, distribution systems, and retail outlets. The oil companies would be the natural choice to get into this business, and they could make the same profits without having to deal with the dictators and OPEC members to do it. I think they would love to see this work.

18 posted on 3/20/2008 4:30:51 AM by deaconjim (Because He lives...)

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To: Neville72

Well Hot Dang!

This is from the Agriculture station that is right next to Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College, aka ABAC.

Gee, Haw, Whoa, Back.

Give 'em Hell ABAC!

19 posted on 3/20/2008 4:35:59 AM by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)

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To: Rennes Templar

Cows also leave a certain amount of physical residue after they process their bio-mass. What happens to the residue? Is it all consumed by bacteria?

The Democrat National Committee gathers it and dispenses it to their members for use in their speeches.

20 posted on 3/20/2008 4:37:59 AM by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)

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To: Neville72

...bacterial organisms that can convert bio-mass into hydrocarbons...

One downside is that they eat you too.

21 posted on 3/20/2008 4:41:03 AM by decimon

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To: Neville72

I believe there is already a similar plant in operation. I saw a TV show about it. It converts primarily turkey waste. The article didn’t discuss the economics of this plant so it’s hard to say whether or not it’s cost effective. The fact that he sites nothing but govt officials and agencies raises the BS flag for me.

22 posted on 3/20/2008 4:43:16 AM by saganite

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To: Neville72

Give this guy a raise!

23 posted on 3/20/2008 4:44:46 AM by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)

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To: Rennes Templar

“What happens to the residue?”

COMPOST

24 posted on 3/20/2008 4:46:31 AM by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)

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To: decimon; All

“One downside is that they eat you too.”

Thinking the same.

I saw this B-rated Sci-Fi movie about a company making tiny nano-robots to eat oil spills. They escaped and started eating the world.

25 posted on 3/20/2008 4:49:12 AM by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)

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To: Rennes Templar

What happens to the residue?

Soylent brown.

26 posted on 3/20/2008 4:54:37 AM by Fresh Wind (Vaclav Klaus on global warming skeptics: "a whip of political correctness strangles their voice")

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To: Hacklehead

After a few technical questions Mr Bell fled the field.

27 posted on 3/20/2008 4:54:41 AM by johnny7

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To: Neville72

Sounds promising....

28 posted on 3/20/2008 4:57:11 AM by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)

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To: Hacklehead

I think Mr. Bell's bacteria farm is located in a tunnel next to his perpetual motion machine.

29 posted on 3/20/2008 5:00:29 AM by BRL

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To: Anticommie

Does your toyota burn rice or gasoline?

30 posted on 3/20/2008 5:00:46 AM by omega4179 (Boycott Olympics of tyrrany!)

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To: Neville72

Sounds good, but won’t the hateful politicians block any idea that would lessen their power and monies grab? And since the majority of Americans believe the lying politicians and continue to elect liars and thieves, why would they do the right thing if they can get away with doing the wrong things all the time.

31 posted on 3/20/2008 5:02:37 AM by kindred (He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.)

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To: Brilliant

32 posted on 3/20/2008 5:02:54 AM by vietvet67

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To: roaddog727; Uncledave; sully777; vigl; Cagey; Abathar; A. Patriot; B Knotts; getsoutalive; ...

Rest In Peace, old friend, your work is finished.....

If you want ON or OFF the DIESEL ”KnOcK” LIST just FReepmail me.....

This is a fairly HIGH VOLUME ping list on some days.....

33 posted on 3/20/2008 5:03:05 AM by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)

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To: Anticommie

I don’t know who is more paranoid about “big oil”....the folks and DU and KOS or in this thread, lol.

34 posted on 3/20/2008 5:03:34 AM by RedOhioan

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To: doodad

DITTO!!!!!!!

35 posted on 3/20/2008 5:08:51 AM by deuteronlmy232 (I do not have a political correct bone in my body. Thank God!)

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To: N. Theknow

Gee, Haw, Whoa, Back.

You realize, of course, that only a select minority here understand the meaning of "gee" and "haw."

36 posted on 3/20/2008 5:11:32 AM by Texas Mulerider

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To: saganite

Here’s the company that does that:

http://www.changingworldtech.com

37 posted on 3/20/2008 5:15:40 AM by Normandy

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To: BubbaJunebug

You need to adjust your tin-hat, halfwit. Why don't you carry your but over to your like-minded friends on DU.

Shell Tries to Turn Algae into Fuel

Last week, the oil company Royal Dutch Shell announced plans to build an algae biodiesel plant in Hawaii. The project will progress in stages: first, the company will build a small research plant, with hopes to build a full-scale commercial plant within two years. Algae is an incredibly tantalizing yet frustrating potential fuel source, as PopSci's Elizabeth Svoboda found out earlier this year when writing the tale of an algae biodiesel startup in Colorado. The microbes can create enormous amounts of oil from very little in the way of nutrients and land, but extracting the oil and converting it to biodiesel remains extremely difficult.

Shell is partnering with Hawaii-based HR Biopetroleum on their project, and hopes to produce 8.5 million barrels of biodiesel a year at the commercial plant.—Michael Moyer

http://popsci.typepad.com/popsci/2007/12/shell-tries-to.html

You probably still believe in those "magic" carburetors and perpetual motion machines as well.

BWAAHAAHAAHAAHAA! Go take your meds. Let those with rational minds take care of the heavy lifting. "Big Oil" companies have invested $Billions in alternative sources.

38 posted on 3/20/2008 5:17:43 AM by Sudetenland (I (heart) "Big Oil!")

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To: BubbaJunebug

Are you kidding? A source like this would secure petroleum type hydrocarbons as our fuel. The collection, processing, storage, distribution and retail sales are already in place with companies like ExxonMobil. Today, ExxonMobil buys more oil than they produce themselves and they have to buy it from countries that allow greater production than we do here in the US.

This would secure their business and knock down alternative fuels.

39 posted on 3/20/2008 5:18:36 AM by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)

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To: Anticommie

GM, Ford and Chrysler will go bankrupt soon anyway.

No they will adapt to change. If their car public demands it. So long as they don’t run to the closest rice burning farm and buy Toyota’s and make the economy stronger for them instead of us.

40 posted on 3/20/2008 5:21:44 AM by Wavrnr10 (Eagles soar but weasels don't get sucked in jet engines)

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To: Anticommie

If that,s real, big oil will make shure this thing will never see light of the day, you can bet your house on it.

Why? They buy oil, expend lots of money finding and drilling for it, and they do still need to refine this bio-mass derived oilh, they won't go out of business, and they're smart enough, or should be anyway, to know that political realities and the public anger at high gas prices will cause the people to hang them if they try to quash such things.

41 posted on 3/20/2008 5:23:17 AM by AFreeBird

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To: RedOhioan

We definitely have our share of tin-hat DU wannabes. "Big Oil" ooh, doesn't the name scare you?

I guess some of the "Conservatives" here are poseurs who don't believe in free-enterprise and capitalism any more than the socialists over at DK and DU.

42 posted on 3/20/2008 5:23:26 AM by Sudetenland (I (heart) "Big Oil!")

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To: BRL

“I think Mr. Bell’s bacteria farm is located in a tunnel next to his perpetual motion machine.”

I can say with virtual certainty that Mr Bell is at best mistaken, or at worst, a fraud and huckster. This is the bio-energy equivalent of Cold Fusion.

43 posted on 3/20/2008 5:23:56 AM by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)

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To: Neville72

I wish well this invention if only to reduce landfill waste. However, this is still hydrocarbon fuel. Our energy issue in not lack of resources, it is lack of production. Environmental wackos will fight this because it still burns carbon.

44 posted on 3/20/2008 5:26:32 AM by 11th Commandment (Elect Conservatives- if you don't vote for McCain, at least work to elect conservatives!)

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To: spanalot

Makes my head spin to see people buying gas at Lukoil.

45 posted on 3/20/2008 5:31:40 AM by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)

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To: Anticommie

If that,s real, big oil will make shure this thing will never see light of the day, you can bet your house on it. Look at the hybrid cars scam, it takes very little to upgrade a hybrid car to a PHEV (plug in hybrid)

True; however, the government is against plug ins because electrical generation capacity. Californika can't produce enough electricity for air conditioners which cost LIVES, you think the government want dead old people in hot houses while people are plugging in their cars?

(PHEV)which is basically an electric car with combustion engine back-up, yet no car manufacturer dares to produce one (you can buy a conversion kit though making your hybrid into a PHEV).

A little off basis. Current Hybrid are parallel systems in which the gas and electric work in unison. Series system like the Chevy Volt are as how you describe. The problem is battery technology. Lithium Ion batteries are still in development for large size motors. No car manufacturer dares to produce a PHEV cause they all are all in bed with oil companies.

Wrong, GM has said that its electric platform is the future of the company.

46 posted on 3/20/2008 5:36:44 AM by 11th Commandment (Elect Conservatives- if you don't vote for McCain, at least work to elect conservatives!)

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To: deaconjim

Don’t be so sure. If this produces oil, it will have to be produced, refined and distributed to the existing gas stations. This will fall to the existing refineries, distribution systems, and retail outlets. The oil companies would be the natural choice to get into this business, and they could make the same profits without having to deal with the dictators and OPEC members to do it. I think they would love to see this work.

Considering that crude oil prices are (roughly) half the cost of gasoline, and crude is artificially priced higher due to OPEC, the oil companies could essentially change nothing in their operations and make the same profits, if not more. Beyond that, there are no exploration or extraction costs for this crude and the feedstocks are of nearly unlimited supply. Plus, I would assume bio-based crude would not have the nasty impurities (like sulphur) that have to be removed.

Only downside I can see is that we still won't have enough refinery capacity...

47 posted on 3/20/2008 5:39:11 AM by chrisser (Obama: panem et circenses)

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To: Hacklehead

Seems that lately there is a crop of scientwists coming up with miracles, sucking money for “research” and then oooops! Sheeet dont work!

Investors get snowed in, not understanding the reality, but “impressed” with perpetuum mobile or whatever.

Seen this in the miraculous antenna design field, claims of science being wrong or stooopid for years, ...now here it is miracle (for HD TV reception, etc.)

48 posted on 3/20/2008 5:45:04 AM by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee!)

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To: Texas Mulerider

Yea! just us oldtimers who have actually plowed a row or two behind one of these gas passers.

49 posted on 3/20/2008 5:48:55 AM by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)

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To: Hacklehead

“I can say with virtual certainty that Mr Bell is at best mistaken, or at worst, a fraud and huckster. This is the bio-energy equivalent of Cold Fusion.”

You know, if this turns out to be true, his simple observation about methane production in the gut of cattle is on a par with Alexander Fleming’s observation that the Penicillium mold contaminating his bacterial culture plates was inhibiting the bacterial growth. I would have looked at the plates and said, what’s this cr@p?” And then, I would have tossed them out.

Don’t be so quick to dismiss this: who would have predicted in the 1930’s that within 10-15 years we would be setting up huge fermentation vats on an industrial scale to produce life-saving drugs called “antibiotics”?

In fact, the biotechnology has been established for 50 years - waiting for the right combination of observation, inspiration, and need.

As Pasteur said: “In the fields of observation chance favors only the prepared mind.”

50 posted on 3/20/2008 5:53:59 AM by paterfamilias

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Vendors Forums :: 'Classical Homeopathy' as opposed to what works

Don Croft — Thu, 08 May 2008 13:34:33 GMT

Author: Don Croft
Subject: 'Classical Homeopathy' as opposed to what works
Posted: Thu 08 May, 2008 08:34 (GMT -5)

I got this email from Doc von Peters, who makes ChemBuster and WakeUp! & works with individuals through uncurable.com:

Hello Don:

Below is an exchange I thought you may be interested in posting to EW.

God bless,

Doc

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> Hello Dr. Von Peters,

>

> I had a question about Wakeup/Mentaquest, and the random use of

> homeopathic stuff without carefull examination. Now i am not trying

> to be a know it all here, but ive been reading quite abit on

> homeopathy as meant by hahnemann for years and the idea is that the

> remedy should be as close as possible to the individual with

> regards to life situation; mental emotional spiritual and

> environmental influences (family etc).

>

> I have had consultations with intervals with a classical homeopathy

> therapist (5+ years official schooling) for a couple of years and

> she helped me greatly. Now my question is, or actually i discussed

> wakeup/mentaquest with her (and she IS very good, helped me and my

> parents lots in many ways) and she told me if you mix all these

> homeopathic things together you get chaos in the body. Since its

> not exactly focused on the specific person but a random mixture of

> remedy of which some according to her (i showed her what stuff was

> in the wakeup/mentaquest) actually work against eachother regarding

> their effect.

>

> Sooooooooooooooo.. What she is saying sorta makes sense and most

> 'fixed' homeopathic products online sold to a large audience arent

> prescribed after personal examination.

>

> Basically my question is dont you think its abit like playing with

> fire if people who already are very sensitive take wake-up and

> 'wake-up' even more? Do you get what i am trying to say (trying to get my

> point across).

>

> I am just curious,

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

That is a classical homeopathic answer. It is not a correct one.

Perhaps I should say a few more words. Classical homeopathy is not real homeopathy. It is a construct which takes most of its ideas from Kent. It ignores the body's innate intelligence, as well as normal functioning of the body and its systems and organs.

That is why it is not really effective in chronic problems - though "classical homeopathy practitioners" can lead people on for years with minimal results.

There are several types of homeopathy. Don't get hung up on "classical" simply because they yell the loudest.

God bless.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=

In the five years that I've been recommending ChemBuster to our customers who have one or another of the new, designer chronic sicknesses, we've seen consistent success and have never seen evidence of harm done. Most people can get well without professional help, these days, and the few physicians, like Doc von Peters and Dr STeve Smith, who understand how much the body yearns to heal itself are getting wonderful results curing and healing the harder cases. Doc Stevo's site is 4quantumhealing.com

The other homeopathic/herbal formulas the Doc has developed are also excellent, well tested products.

As ever, empirical evidence carries more weight than theory or dogma can.

Dr Hahnemann was a pioneer but after two hundred years it's not rational to assume that simply imitating him will be sufficient. Similarly, we don't imitate Dr Reich, though nearly all of what we're doing with orgonite is based on his original findings. In my view, this is the more appropriate approach to 'classicism.'

~Don

Orgone Experiences :: RE: Washington, D.C.

EricCarlsen1 — Wed, 07 May 2008 16:03:25 GMT

Author: EricCarlsen1
Subject: Re: Washington, D.C.
Posted: Wed 07 May, 2008 11:03 (GMT -5)

May 7, 2008

Washington DC may have turned the corner with all my gifting this past month. We've had a few good days of rain last week and more is on it's way, plus the white puffy clouds have returned and there seems to be a huge decrease in humidity and that oppressive smog that makes breathing in the city difficult.

I can't say that the Orgonite is responsible for the weather improving to a more healthy and livable quality here since only time will tell, but DC does seem that the general atmosphere has improved since I started putting orgonite out EVERYWHERE !

Gotcha Scientology, Covert CIA Mind Control Center

Tips and Strategies :: AFRICA STILL NEED MORE GIFTING

David Ochieng — Wed, 07 May 2008 15:48:29 GMT

Author: David Ochieng
Subject: AFRICA STILL NEED MORE GIFTING
Posted: Wed 07 May, 2008 10:48 (GMT -5)

THE GIFTINT TRIP TO TANZANIA.

Musoma is one of the major towns along the north West t of Tanzania .

The Musoma Town is along Lake Victoria north west of Tanzania and south west of Kenya border , its� about 150km from our local towns. Transport to the same border in relatively high compared to other places of same distances.

THE PROBLEM FACING THEM

The most problem that they are really complaining a bout is that the water level of their rivers and Lakes are reducing, some are running dry and also that malaria disease told them to believe in the power of Orgonite because it will heal there rivers and there will be no more malaria in there village.

We African gifters we still have a lot to do and with the help of Don,Steve and other EW members we belive we will make it bgecause Africa need us to save it from tyrany.

MY DAYS OF GIFTING

On my first day of gifting I was lucky to come across bush doctor and he was very pleased with me after I explain to him every thing a bout the Orgonite and it�s value.Because of him it was very smooth and easy gifting in the outskirt of Musoma town. Though that day he was busy but promises me to assist me the next day of my gifting.

My message to every person I met was to first educate them and then we distribute the Orgonite.On my second day of gifting Juma(Bush doctor) Used his ways to gathered the villagers in one small center, then I started teaching them a bout our plans to save Africa and the world as a whole,from wickedness,sickness and to heal Africa. After we finished we distributed the orgonite to them. At a round 6pm we were done and went back.

On my third day of gifting I had to do the gifting a round musoma town,Because the rain rained too much that day,which gave me had time to get where I was supposed to do the gifting. I met some few people at the market in the evening and done some gifting there, I taught them the mission of our Orgonite project and its goodness. Some who had questions asked and then gave them them answers.

On my last day of gifting I had to do the gifting at River Mara.River Mara was such a big river but now days it water level has reduced.So I droped some balls there and latter distributed the orgonite to the villagers along River mara.They were happy and thankful when they came to learn that the Orgonite will help in healing the river and their surroundings.

Problems I found during my Tanzania visit

Since I went there alone it was such a had gifting but some how I overcome everythin.Mrs Odondi did not come , collecting data and information was difficult,but I tried my best.There language with our is too had to listening,though we have one National language with them which is Kiswahili but there Is quite had but with the help of Juma (Bush Doctor) and some friends that I met there i manage to communicate with them.

We African gifters we still have a lot to do and with the help of Don,Steve and other EW members we belive we will make it.

CLIMATE AND VEGETATION OF MUSOMA TOWN.

The area is covered with dry and wet tropical climate it has got two seasons we t and dry season. Farming of food crop and livestock keeping such as cassava , maixe millet and sorghaum.

By David

Tips and Strategies :: RE: Good, usable info on inadvisability of fear of IRS

Don Croft — Wed, 07 May 2008 12:12:15 GMT

Author: Don Croft
Subject: Re: Good, usable info on inadvisability of fear of IRS
Posted: Wed 07 May, 2008 07:12 (GMT -5)

This is quite a long film, loaded with good intel and it's probably spreading far and wide, already.

Note the impulse to 'organize resistance' and the reference to 'civil liberties' and 'implants.' What we know from experience is that no organized effort will succeed becuase organizing invites the world odor's sewer rat agencies in the same way that having an open-membership orgonite forum does.

We also know that everyone who has ever expressed curiosity about how the world operates has already been implanted, many times.

There's been a world government for hundreds of years, or longer, but they've only lately identified themselves; before that, they operated vi the etheric realm with infantile satanism, mass murder, coordination with alien predatory races, etc.

When power has returned to legitimate governments then coordinating between these governments will be a function of an agency similar to the internet--non-intrusive and without the power to tax.

Local governments will have the most power, of course, because they're directly elected. Under those circumstances, who cares whether there's a world government or not? Who feels threatened by the internet, after all, except tyrants? The internet is already a de facto world government, of sorts. We laugh at the United Nations, though of course we don't laugh at their attempt to destroy the Africans with AIDS and sponsored bloodshed.

National governments will be less powerful than local governments after we wake up and take responsibility for discarding this ruinous economic/political regime. I'm an American because that's the culture I was born and raised in. What's that got to do with politics?

China probably has America's gold since October, 2004, and we might be buying it back as Chinese gold coins by now

As long as we keep and bear our arms nobody is going to invade us. Carol and I keep an unloaded shotgun in the bedroom and just having it there probably does more to keep the felonious feds out of our house (while we're in it) than 'allegedly voting for Good Federal Politicians' could ever do.

Until we get rid of the federal government we won't even be able to elect the local dog catcher because they control all the poll booths, electronically.

It's really too late to save this predatory federal government, no matter whether there are politicians who will make a show of 'signing up' to reverse this horror. Every elected and appointed federal official has used the US Constitution as toilet paper by now and are eligible for the noose, according to that document's explicit requirements. We don't need to kill the bastards, though. Elected Sherriffs can simply round them up when they set foot out of Washington, DC, otherwise why not let them keep that city for themselves? They can get out to sea from there, perhaps on little inner tube rafts, without risking arrest, after all, so it's not like they'd be imprisoned.

They could even still have a president of their little corporate country. Maybe that one could keep sheep on the White House lawn, like Woodrow Wilson did. I doubt the flock would last, though, becuase American politicians haven't learned the basic lesson that you can sheer a sheep many times but can only skin it once.

Let's stop dreaming about 'fixing the federal government' and start gifting their assets off more, okay? Every dynamic in this world is an energy dynamic, after all, and orgonite is the magic bullet that changes bad energy into good energy. The current regime lives on bad energy. The lovely part of this unorganized grassroot movement is that the bulk of the work is being done by people who don't consider themselves warriors and who probably also pay those unlawful taxes on account of implied corporate extortion.

Meanwhile, a few people will keep doing what we can in the internatinoal sessions to prevent these government people from initiating World War Three in a bid to hang on to political and economic hegemony or to destroy as many innocents as possible on their way to oblivion.

If this wonderful film is a signal, as I believe it is, this year is already turning out to be a watershed of new awareness and commitment for humanity.

Watershed: a dividing ridge between two drainage areas

Remember, in the fascist white Depression Babies' prime years, when everything was going the felonious feds' way?

~Don

Specific Targets :: Wales Gifting Update + Another Free Energy Site

Don Croft — Wed, 07 May 2008 11:37:09 GMT

Author: Don Croft
Subject: Wales Gifting Update + Another Free Energy Site
Posted: Wed 07 May, 2008 06:37 (GMT -5)

Don,

Spent a great weekend gifting the mountains of Wales

Knackered after a 7 hour hike into the mountains yesterday, but pleased with the latest run J

Fresh builds this week coming up and a long term plan is evolving to circle Wales with Orgonite, via Kayak, Ultralight [Welsh Bomber Wing, Unorganized Etheric Air Force ], foot, car and whatever type of transport is available.

As you are posting about free energy devices, here is a guy that is so close to Meyers hydrogen car.

May be worth posting, he is a tough nut to boot and wont take any sh*t off the government.. I LIKE him.

http://blog.waterforfuel.com/ Kevin another American hero.

Mike

Specific Targets :: RE: First Aerially Gifted Mt. Top Death Ray Array ;-)

bdrumr56 — Wed, 07 May 2008 02:58:29 GMT

Author: bdrumr56
Subject: Re: First Aerially Gifted Mt. Top Death Ray Array ;-)
Posted: Tue 06 May, 2008 21:58 (GMT -5)

Don,

Congratulations on the fulfillment of a long-held dream!! The sewer rats can hide no more!

One thing, though. Just how do you use a belt-sander to prepare kimchee?...

Dean

General Psychic Intel :: 'They're Afraid!' (crowd cheers in background)

Don Croft — Tue, 06 May 2008 19:10:22 GMT

Author: Don Croft
Subject: 'They're Afraid!' (crowd cheers in background)
Posted: Tue 06 May, 2008 14:10 (GMT -5)

Apparently there was a watershed development in Dooney's international chatroom on Saturday. We were 'doing' the top US predators (in and under the White House) again because they were apparently lining up (with the Mossadomites) another nuke-attack attempt on Persia, when Carol noted that this was the first time that Cheney and crew showed apprehension and fear of failure.

Remember Robert Heinlein's book, STARSHIP TROOPERS? It was about a race of bugs that were attacking earth from their distant planet and it was made into a movie about ten years ago.

The protagonists from Buenos Aires had been in the invading army occupying one of the outlying bug worlds and had managed to capture one of the 'brain bugs.' When the psychic military guy got next to the captured bug, he proudly announced, 'It's afraid!' and all the soldiers cheered because they knew that this was a turning point in the war, which had been going very badly for the humans until then.

Lots of people email me to say that they, too, have sensed that the world order is falling, now. The last to 'get it' might be the fear junkies who think they're awake but are stuck in the Chicken Little (CIA) disinfo sites but they'll probably put down their addictions before long, too.

That said, I asked Carol if the Mossadomites are also considering their own demise and she said, 'No, those guys are going to have to be stopped--they're committed to the death.' I understand that physically stopping these baby-killers is an option but I bet that pulling the money plug on Israel's fascist regime will be a cleaner solution. If the Mossadomites, who are apparently failing to incite World War Three, are eventually forced to rely on slingstones and clubs to kill innocents it will be much easier to deal with them

The Triads and Vryal, even the Jesuits, are apparently more pragmatic and I bet they're already stealing gold and hiding it for themselves in caves so that they won't eventually be arrested or starve. Maybe they'll live on mushrooms in darkness, which would be more expeditious than housing them in prisons at public expense, I think

It's just not a great time in history to be a professional predator.

~Don

Orgone Experiences :: Hong Kong Sylphs

Don Croft — Tue, 06 May 2008 18:30:23 GMT

Author: Don Croft
Subject: Hong Kong Sylphs
Posted: Tue 06 May, 2008 13:30 (GMT -5)

I got the following from Hong Kong Johnny, who along with Didier, has done a lot of gifting in and around Hong Kong and they've apparently transformed the environment, there:

Hello Don,

The showing of Sylphs yesterday in Hong Kong was nothing short of STUNNING. Really and truly bro...I have NEVER seen it anywhere like that...Canada or ANYWHERE. Of course the chemtrail lads showed up to attempt to thwart it...but it was a pitiful effort against this utter BEAUTY in the CLOUDS. The energy of happiness was palpable...

Thanks for your shining heart Don. We live in an amazing reality.

With love...John B in Hong Kong

Specific Targets :: First Aerially Gifted Mt. Top Death Ray Array ;-)

Don Croft — Tue, 06 May 2008 16:45:29 GMT

Author: Don Croft
Subject: First Aerially Gifted Mt. Top Death Ray Array ;-)
Posted: Tue 06 May, 2008 11:45 (GMT -5)

I was going to do it yesterday (my birthday) but Carol said that talking about it, earlier, enabled Whomever to create a little dark storm over that mountain by the time I was done with my day's work, so we raked and burned the stuff in the yard from the pine trees, then disabled the new underground base not far from here, also tossed an eighteen in a lake not far from the base. She got me a big belt sander and a German-made crock pot for my b-day but says I'll have to make kimchee in the shop, not in the house

We live in a nice valley surrounded by pretty big mountains so I'll get a lot of practice, this month, flying in mountains. It's awfully exhilarating to circle a mountaintop deathray array at cloud level and (it's against the alleged law to toss stuff from airplanes, so of course I'm not going to say I did that) bless it in a material way!

On the way back, I flew across a little cumulus cloud so I could see my airplane shadow and that round rainbow all around it and this was the first time I'd flown above and close to any clouds, which is also 'illegal' of course. Sheesh. I didn't see any feds up there, so no worry!

The reason I picked this one as my first is because it's called Hoodoo Mountain and the world order is founded on infantile masonic/jesuit/vryal/triad hoodoo, of course. I tried getting to that death ray array six years ago but somebody owns the whole mountain and access was blocked about halfway up. I did manage to slow down the effect considerably by painstakingly surrounding the mountain with towerbusters but today I definitely finished the job.

From up there I lined up two more accessible (to me ) mountain top hard targets that I'll get to soon and another couple of peaks which Kelly gifted with a lot of difficulty about four years ago but on which the sewer rats have erected some more weatherballs and other death transmitters, since. Let's see these nazi jerks stay ahead of my gifting efforts after this, heheh.

I was only gone forty minutes and climbed steadily, after leaving hte field's 1000' traffic pattern, to around 6000 feet--arriving at that altitude right before I got to the peak. The mountaintop is ten miles from the field. The other hard targets I mentioned are all within easy range, too. I had to dive under some clouds that were forming, just above the array, but I got a clear view of it as I circled and 'blessed' it. I took note of how the little clouds below me were moving so I could detect downdrafts but the wind was light and the flying was pretty smooth. All the way there, I took note of emergency landing spots, which is what any pilot does, especially ultralight pilots. I had already determined my glide rate, so can count on gliding a mile for every thousand feet of altitude. I practically glide the remaining couple of miles back to the field from my comfortable cruising altitude, which is about a half mile above ground level. The first few times I banked the plane at that altitude was kind of startling because the sides of the cockpit are open and just a little bit wider than my shoulders. The second time I soloed (December) I forgot to buckle up, so I made very shallow turns, that time.

The parachute I installed on the plane is for if I'm ever over an area, like forest or water, where I can't reach a flat, cleared field or road if my engine quits. Meanwhile, I practice short landings with the engine off, just about every time, and experiment with airspeed and flap combinations on the approach. A mechanical lever operates the flaps and I have to slow the plane down a lot in order to apply full flaps. When the flaps go down I get a brief weightless sensation as the little plane takes a jump up--that was a little disconcerting the first couple of times, too.

I'm looking forward to getting the little turbo-cloudbuster installed so I can aim it at black helicopters and other predators while I'm flying. I especially like to aim at the psi corps predators and the 'non-lethal weapon' wielders in those choppers

My savvy pilot (previous military) buddy, D, in Hungary gave me some good advice about detecting the feds' tampering with my plane and I took that to heart and began applying it during my meticulous preflight inspection routines.

On one of our open-water gifting sorties in Florida the feds had poured about thirty gallons of water into our boat's fuel tank the night before we left Key West on our way toward the Dry Tortugas so I know what these criminals are willing to do to stop someone's healing efforts. The Operators must have worked overtime protecting us, that day, because we probably should have had engine failure about the time that US Navy patrol boat was headed at us, about fifty miles away from Key West, over one of their underground/underwater bases (yet another restricted area on the charts--go figure )

When the boat mechanic later told us about all the fresh water he drained from the tank (we had only been in salt water) he had no trouble accepting our explanation of why the feds had apparently done that to our boat. People in Florida are generally a lot more open minded, we found, than people in most other places in America, except Northern Idaho and a few other areas that are NOT fed-friendly.

By the way, I hope you'll pass around the very intelligent, comprehensive new online film, America; Freedom to Fascism. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173

Google is probably a CIA asset but the fact that they won't even dare censor this film on their own property probably indicates how close we are to getting rid of this criminal federal government.

~Don

~Don

Tips and Strategies :: Good, usable info on inadvisability of fear of IRS

Don Croft — Mon, 05 May 2008 23:06:54 GMT

Author: Don Croft
Subject: Good, usable info on inadvisability of fear of IRS
Posted: Mon 05 May, 2008 18:06 (GMT -5)

Yasel sent me this and a couple of other useful links. I hope you'll watch the entire film, especially in light of what the corporate criminals in Washington, DC, did to Irwin Schiff and the Browns:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173

Lately, Wyoming Sherriffs are assuming their lawful duties by preventing these thugs from molesting the people in their jurisdiction, which is a huge positive step back toward freedom in America. That's covered in another thread.

~Don

Research and Development :: RE: It's Time We All Had A Free Energy Device Up And Running

Don Croft — Mon, 05 May 2008 22:04:38 GMT

Author: Don Croft
Subject: Re: It's Time We All Had A Free Energy Device Up And Running
Posted: Mon 05 May, 2008 17:04 (GMT -5)

I'm going to share emails I get from people who are experimenting with one or another free energy tech enquiry. I'm encouraged that so many readers of EW are work-oriented rather than merely speculative and I'm sure Dr Reich would have been gratified if this had happened more in his day.

Here's one from Homer, a prolific gifter in Southeast California:

Don

I have been testing the water I impregnate with Hydrogen and Ozone and have been comparing it to water from the CB...two days with distilled is about the same energy up as 52 minutes on the electrolyzer

water4gas states that after charging the water for 30-45 minutes and adding 4 capfuls of Hydrogen Peroxide ...and then put in the vaporizer in the car that magic happens...I wonder how it would work in a Joe Cell

I would be willing to give you and Carol one of my units to check out ...but don't drink the water after about 6 in the evening or you won't be in your regular sleep pattern...

Let me know and I'll send it out.....Blessings Homer

[I'll swap something with him for some of the water for Carol to check out. ~Don]

Specific Targets :: RE: Wyoming Sherriffs Put Feds in Their Place

Don Croft — Mon, 05 May 2008 21:25:59 GMT

Author: Don Croft
Subject: Re: Wyoming Sherriffs Put Feds in Their Place
Posted: Mon 05 May, 2008 16:25 (GMT -5)

Hi there Mr. Don Croft. I found out about ethericwarriors.com while reading your web page [worldwithoutparasites.com] and read some of the topics which I'm 100% in favor of like the Wyoming Sheriff that confronted the feds. I want to add an interesting link for all the users to enjoy but the blog I found out is by invite only. At least you can post it, here is the link to the main web page http://freedomtofascism.com/ and this one is to watch the movie for free at youtube http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173. Enjoy!!!

Yasel

Specific Targets :: RE: Sicherheitzdienstshuetzstafl

Don Croft — Sun, 04 May 2008 17:21:06 GMT

Author: Don Croft
Subject: Re: Sicherheitzdienstshuetzstafl
Posted: Sun 04 May, 2008 12:21 (GMT -5)

Got this, too, from the same busy friend, who kind of needs to be anonymous for now:

Don,

Here is the separate accurate data on the SS ... You had mixed the two organizations names. Irrelevant in the big picture, as they are all bad odors anyway, so they all smell like shit , but wanted you to have the accuracy !! We concur that DHS is a upgraded model of same structures. As you know nothing new under the sun, so the NWO copies what worked once, improves and tweeks it (as they think is needed 60 years later), and then hope it lasts longer than it did for the Nazis.... Only good ting about it was the uniforms were designed by HUGO BOSS (true !), so they looked smart !!! just a shame that mainly demented sadistic assholes wore them

D...

SS = Schutzstaffel = "Protective Squadron"

The S.S. was established in 1925 as a personal guard unit for Nazi leader Adolf Hitler. "Die Schutz-Staffel der NSDAP" (shield squadron of the Nazi party) Under the leadership of Heinrich Himmler between 1929 and 1945, the SS grew from a small paramilitary formation to become one of the largest and most powerful organizations in Nazi Germany. The Nazis regarded the SS as an elite unit, the party's "Praetorian Guard," with all SS personnel selected on the principles of racial purity and unconditional loyalty to the Nazi Party. To maintain the political power of the Nazi party, the SS was given authority to establish and run the Sicherheitsdienst (SD), the security and intelligence service, and the Geheime Staatspolizei (Gestapo), the secret police, effectively putting the SS above the law.

SD = Sicherheitsdienst = SD, Security Service. The security and intelligence service considered a “sister” organization to the Gestapo. The SD was administered as an independent SS office.

Postwar activity

According to Simon Wiesenthal, towards the end of World War II, a group of former SS officers went to Argentina and set up a Nazi fugitive network code-named ODESSA, (an acronym for Organisation der ehemaligen SS-Angeh�rigen, "Organization of the former SS members"), with ties in Germany, Switzerland, Italy, and the Vatican, operating out of Buenos Aires. ODESSA allegedly helped Adolf Eichmann, Josef Mengele, Erich Priebke, and many other war criminals find postwar refuge in Latin America.

Notably, Argentinian citizen and water company worker Ricardo Klement was discovered to be Adolf Eichmann in the 1950s, by former Jewish Dachau worker Lothar Hermann, whose daughter, Sylvia, became romantically involved with Klaus Klement (born Klaus Eichmann in 1936 in Berlin). He was captured by the Israeli Secret Service, the Mossad, in a suburb of Buenos Aires on May 11, 1960, and tried in Jerusalem on April 11, 1961, where he explicitly declared that he had abdicated his conscience in order to follow the F�hrerprinzip (the 'leader principle' or superior orders). Also, Dr. Mengele, disguised as a member of the regular German infantry was captured and released by the Allies, oblivious of who he was. He was able to go and work in Buenos Aires, Argentina in 1949 and to Altos, Paraguay, in 1959 where he was discovered by Nazi hunters. From the late 1960s on, he exercised his medical practice in Embu, a small city near S�o Paulo, Brazil, under the identity of Wolfgang Gerhard, where in 1979, he suffered a stroke while swimming and drowned.

The British writer Gitta Sereny (born in 1921 in Hungary), who conducted interviews with SS men, considers the story about ODESSA untrue and attributes the escape of notorious SS members to postwar chaos, an individual bishop in the Vatican, and the Vatican's inability to investigate the stories of those people who came requesting help.

In the modern age, several neo-Nazi groups claim to be successor organizations to the SS. There is no single group, however, that is recognized as a continuation of the SS, and most such present-day organizations are loosely organized with separate agendas.

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D,

I'm posting the Mossadomite-blessed official history of the SS because I think it's good background material, which is probably what you intended, thanks! When you read Mrs LaRouche's compilation you're going to get a more startling but more comprehensive and less-vested view of this organization. I think the skinheads, Arian Nation and other misdirects were created to draw attention away from the Vryal/SS and, of course, Israel's own MI6-derived secret police organization, whom we call 'Mossadomites' are closely styled on the SS, sans the snappy costumes.

Vryal are not mentioned in the book, of course. This is the highest calibre research journalism, so only documentable material is offered; not speculative material. Our own Vryal enquiry is based on battlefield tech from the psychics and some relevant correlations, of course, but we hope people will keep an open mind about it, also open eyes.

It's in the best interest of MI6 not to allow information, such as the Odessa File, to gain popular attention because the world odor wants us to believe that nations oppose each other these days. The failure of their capitalist vs commies scam by 1990 indicates that humanity woke up enough to stop being spoon-fed crap like this. The subsequent dehumanization scams, which in America were the militia, then the Muslims, also failed to move the PJ folks to terror and paranoia, thank God.

Anyone who will read this book is in for a real feast! Thanks again, D!!! Thx, too, for the spelling correction. When you read the book you're going to see that the SS were around, using other names, for a loooong time.

There's even a picture of the then-current Swiss head of the SS, who is rich and looks like any other slick, effete corporate freak. He's no skinhead, nor does wear camo and a baseball cap, nor riding boots and armband.

~Don